23rd TB Humans > King Piccolo?

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23rd TB Humans > King Piccolo?
Tweet Topic Started: Jun 8 2014, 04:26 PM (1,678 Views)
DSTREET45	Jun 9 2014, 12:07 AM Post #16
Posts: 883 Group: Member Member #9,779 Joined: July 21, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball/Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Yu Yu Hakusho	Alex KloonBoss Jun 8 2014, 09:58 PM Pyrus Jun 8 2014, 09:52 PM Alex KloonBoss Jun 8 2014, 09:44 PM Pelador Jun 8 2014, 04:36 PM Yamcha couldn't beat Kami in possession of a human. There's no way he's beating King Picollo. Krillin and Tien might be able to manage it. If Krillin is able to do it, why not Yamcha? Yamcha shouldn't be inferior to Krillin. You mean he shouldn't be "too" inferior to Krillin, yes? Considering that Yamcha was called to be about as strong as Krillin, I don't think the gap should've changed. That was only in the 22nd Budokai and even then I still think that Krillin> Yamcha based on their respective fights against Goku and Tien. As for the topic Tien has very strong evidence of being superior to KP so much so that I doubt anyone here is willing to argue against it. Krillin I also put above (though obviously less so than Tien) KP based on his fight with Piccolo as well as Piccolo's statement. KP should pretty much be fodder to him at this point seeing as Kami could finger flick KP Arc Goku and Piccolo Jr>>Kami. Yamcha I have my doubts on but he could possibly take on KP and win seeing as he did land a hit on Kami, something Goku couldn't do even against Popo and I don't think that Kami would be weaker than Popo even when he is possessing a human. Edited by DSTREET45, Jun 10 2014, 08:59 PM.



+ Pyrus	Jun 9 2014, 12:14 AM Post #17
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I could see a chain like this: Ten (23rd) > King Piccolo (Young) = Kakarot (post-Super Holy Water) > Krillin (23rd) > Yamcha (23rd) > Chaozu (23rd) > King Piccolo (Old)
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+ miguelnuva	Jun 9 2014, 06:26 AM Post #18
Posts: 4,068 Group: Elite Member Member #8,291 Joined: September 16, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Sailor Moon	I have King Piccolo stronger due to this. 1. The numbers stated in Z versus King Piccolo being 250-260 I believe. 2. During the DB portion of the manga power levels meant much more less then they do in Z. 139 Roshi was able to have a fight with 180 Tien and only lost due to stamina and being older. It was more about Martial arts skill in DB so Krillen and Tien who are under but nearing King Piccolo could still be threats to Goku due to their skills surpassing King Piccolo.
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Alex D. Boss	Jun 9 2014, 08:24 AM Post #19
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	DSTREET45 Jun 9 2014, 12:07 AM Alex KloonBoss Jun 8 2014, 09:58 PM Pyrus Jun 8 2014, 09:52 PM Alex KloonBoss Jun 8 2014, 09:44 PM Pelador Jun 8 2014, 04:36 PM Yamcha couldn't beat Kami in possession of a human. There's no way he's beating King Picollo. Krillin and Tien might be able to manage it. If Krillin is able to do it, why not Yamcha? Yamcha shouldn't be inferior to Krillin. You mean he shouldn't be "too" inferior to Krillin, yes? Considering that Yamcha was called to be about as strong as Krillin, I don't think the gap should've changed. That was only in the 22nd Budokai and even then I still think that Krillin> Yamcha based on their respective fights against Goku and Tien. As for the topic Tien has very strong evidence of being superior to KP so much so that I doubt anyone here is willing to argue against it. Krillin I also put above (though obviously less so than Tien) KP based on his fight with Piccolo as well as Piccolo's statement. KP should pretty much be fodder to him at this point seeing as Kami could finger flick KP Arc Goku and Piccolo Jr>>Kami. Yamcha I have my doubts on but he could possibly take on KP and wins seeing as he did land a hit on Kami, something Goku couldn't do even against Popo and I'm think that Kami would be weaker than Popo even when he is possessing a human. Where did İ say Yamcha > Krillin? Yamcha was stated to be about as strong as Krillin, doesn't mean that Yamcha is stronger than Krillin. He isn't far from Krillin thats it.



Gracek90	Jun 9 2014, 08:37 AM Post #20
Posts: 566 Group: Member Member #10,535 Joined: November 27, 2013 Gender Male	Kuririn and Tien, should be able to take King Piccolo young. The first one with little to none difficulty, while the second with moderate difficulty. Yamcha should be in between old and young Piccolo. To be honest, numbers from BOZ contradicts statements from 23TB.
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jun 9 2014, 12:42 PM Post #21
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Tenshinhan is the only one above Piccolo Daimao IMO.
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Rogafufuken	Jun 9 2014, 02:04 PM Post #22
Posts: 1,483 Group: Member Member #10,933 Joined: February 25, 2014 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z/Kai, and Nisekoi What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball/Z, and One Piece	Gracek90 Jun 9 2014, 08:37 AM Kuririn and Tien, should be able to take King Piccolo young. The first one with little to none difficulty, while the second with moderate difficulty. Yamcha should be in between old and young Piccolo. To be honest, numbers from BOZ contradicts statements from 23TB. why do you have Krillin above Tien? Tien was always stronger than Krillin up until the Freeza Arc.



Alex D. Boss	Jun 9 2014, 04:02 PM Post #23
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	Yusuke Urameshi Jun 8 2014, 11:22 PM 22nd Yamcha > 22nd Krillin? Never seen that before. Anyways, I have... King Piccolo (Young): 240 Yamcha: 250 Krillin: 260 Tien: 300 I guess that means all the Humans got weaker in the 5 year gap. Thats impossible for someone as Tien, who never stops training, taking into account that Tien was still training to reach Goku's level.



Gracek90	Jun 9 2014, 10:04 PM Post #24
Posts: 566 Group: Member Member #10,535 Joined: November 27, 2013 Gender Male	Ohh it was my mistake:P. I wanted to say that tien will have little dificulty with Piccolo while Kuririn, moderate.
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DSTREET45	Jun 10 2014, 07:39 AM Post #25
Posts: 883 Group: Member Member #9,779 Joined: July 21, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragonball/Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Yu Yu Hakusho	Alex KloonBoss Jun 9 2014, 08:24 AM DSTREET45 Jun 9 2014, 12:07 AM Alex KloonBoss Jun 8 2014, 09:58 PM Pyrus Jun 8 2014, 09:52 PM Alex KloonBoss Jun 8 2014, 09:44 PM Pelador Jun 8 2014, 04:36 PM Yamcha couldn't beat Kami in possession of a human. There's no way he's beating King Picollo. Krillin and Tien might be able to manage it. If Krillin is able to do it, why not Yamcha? Yamcha shouldn't be inferior to Krillin. You mean he shouldn't be "too" inferior to Krillin, yes? Considering that Yamcha was called to be about as strong as Krillin, I don't think the gap should've changed. That was only in the 22nd Budokai and even then I still think that Krillin> Yamcha based on their respective fights against Goku and Tien. As for the topic Tien has very strong evidence of being superior to KP so much so that I doubt anyone here is willing to argue against it. Krillin I also put above (though obviously less so than Tien) KP based on his fight with Piccolo as well as Piccolo's statement. KP should pretty much be fodder to him at this point seeing as Kami could finger flick KP Arc Goku and Piccolo Jr>>Kami. Yamcha I have my doubts on but he could possibly take on KP and wins seeing as he did land a hit on Kami, something Goku couldn't do even against Popo and I'm think that Kami would be weaker than Popo even when he is possessing a human. Where did İ say Yamcha > Krillin? Yamcha was stated to be about as strong as Krillin, doesn't mean that Yamcha is stronger than Krillin. He isn't far from Krillin thats it. I never said that you said Yamcha over Krillin. I meant that I don't belive that Yamcha was that close to/equal to Krillin like his statement implied. He isn't far but based on their fights with the two finalists I believe that Krillin has a good advantage over Yamcha.



Alex D. Boss	Jun 10 2014, 10:12 PM Post #26
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	DSTREET45 Jun 10 2014, 07:39 AM Alex KloonBoss Jun 9 2014, 08:24 AM DSTREET45 Jun 9 2014, 12:07 AM Alex KloonBoss Jun 8 2014, 09:58 PM Pyrus Jun 8 2014, 09:52 PM Alex KloonBoss Jun 8 2014, 09:44 PM Pelador Jun 8 2014, 04:36 PM Yamcha couldn't beat Kami in possession of a human. There's no way he's beating King Picollo. Krillin and Tien might be able to manage it. If Krillin is able to do it, why not Yamcha? Yamcha shouldn't be inferior to Krillin. You mean he shouldn't be "too" inferior to Krillin, yes? Considering that Yamcha was called to be about as strong as Krillin, I don't think the gap should've changed. That was only in the 22nd Budokai and even then I still think that Krillin> Yamcha based on their respective fights against Goku and Tien. As for the topic Tien has very strong evidence of being superior to KP so much so that I doubt anyone here is willing to argue against it. Krillin I also put above (though obviously less so than Tien) KP based on his fight with Piccolo as well as Piccolo's statement. KP should pretty much be fodder to him at this point seeing as Kami could finger flick KP Arc Goku and Piccolo Jr>>Kami. Yamcha I have my doubts on but he could possibly take on KP and wins seeing as he did land a hit on Kami, something Goku couldn't do even against Popo and I'm think that Kami would be weaker than Popo even when he is possessing a human. Where did İ say Yamcha > Krillin? Yamcha was stated to be about as strong as Krillin, doesn't mean that Yamcha is stronger than Krillin. He isn't far from Krillin thats it. I never said that you said Yamcha over Krillin. I meant that I don't belive that Yamcha was that close to/equal to Krillin like his statement implied. He isn't far but based on their fights with the two finalists I believe that Krillin has a good advantage over Yamcha. Yamcha is most likely superior to Chaozu , who was able to fight just fine against Krillin.Yamcha vs Krillin would be a long hard fought battle. Their power is very close. Same for the 23rd Budokai as well. I don't see a reason to put Krillin over a huge advantage.



~~p123~~	Jun 10 2014, 10:16 PM Post #27
Posts: 2,148 Group: Banned Member #5,120 Joined: August 9, 2010	Agreed. Yamcha and Krillen are rivals for most of DB



Alex D. Boss	Jun 10 2014, 10:22 PM Post #28
Posts: 8,688 Group: Probation Member #8,536 Joined: November 8, 2012 Gender Male Country Canada	p123 Jun 10 2014, 10:16 PM Agreed. Yamcha and Krillen are rivals for most of DB Lol, remember when we debated about this on Shinden Reborn. I was just joined new, and this was my 1st discussion against you lol.



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